1 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:37,570 --> 00:00:34,479 now you are electrifying hosts of 3 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:37,580 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 4 00:00:48,939 --> 00:00:44,690 team sports being back here in the woods 5 00:00:51,930 --> 00:00:48,949 and then total darkness I tell you the 6 00:00:56,229 --> 00:00:51,940 stars they just look so big and bright 7 00:00:58,330 --> 00:00:56,239 almost like golf balls and the moon well 8 00:01:01,660 --> 00:00:58,340 it's it's you're the hell lot brighter 9 00:01:04,419 --> 00:01:01,670 than I've ever seen it before uh Tim 10 00:01:07,660 --> 00:01:04,429 look again my friend those are not stars 11 00:01:09,999 --> 00:01:07,670 and that's not the moon those are the 12 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:10,009 Morley lights they've been showing up 13 00:01:18,010 --> 00:01:15,410 around these parts for years okay sure 14 00:01:19,570 --> 00:01:18,020 I've heard that our late Fred Ted 15 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:19,580 Phillips talked about their appearance 16 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:22,729 on the show before I I seem to remember 17 00:01:27,310 --> 00:01:24,770 that he thought of them as being under 18 00:01:30,999 --> 00:01:27,320 intelligent control and not just your 19 00:01:33,420 --> 00:01:31,009 average spook light hmm some people 20 00:01:35,980 --> 00:01:33,430 think the farm nearby is like a local 21 00:01:37,389 --> 00:01:35,990 skinwalker ranch all sorts of weird 22 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:37,399 things have been going on there for 23 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:40,130 years our guest tonight is going to fill 24 00:01:46,210 --> 00:01:43,970 us in on the details okay well uh I 25 00:01:49,179 --> 00:01:46,220 suggest then that we get back to the KC 26 00:01:51,639 --> 00:01:49,189 or our studios and have some hot coffee 27 00:01:54,399 --> 00:01:51,649 and warm up a bit and talk to Ted's 28 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:54,409 right-hand man on what the late 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:01:58,850 researcher was doing way out here 30 00:02:05,380 --> 00:02:00,770 oh damn here comes another one of those 31 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:05,390 pesky lights Jesus dad or they're all 32 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:07,310 around us those morally light you can't 33 00:02:15,099 --> 00:02:12,560 you can't get rid of them oh boy they 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:15,109 can't get rid of us either Tim nope nope 35 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:18,010 no matter how much we try they try that 36 00:02:25,509 --> 00:02:22,310 that's right well I swear you know what 37 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:25,519 a what a what a see talk about a alien 38 00:02:31,690 --> 00:02:28,390 invasion it's a it's just an 39 00:02:32,620 --> 00:02:31,700 unbelievable world we we have to exist 40 00:02:34,570 --> 00:02:32,630 in these 41 00:02:39,730 --> 00:02:34,580 these days that the streets are empty 42 00:02:42,070 --> 00:02:39,740 and it's just impossible to to get 43 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:42,080 anything done people are so worried 44 00:02:47,170 --> 00:02:43,760 about what's going on and I can't say 45 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:47,180 that I blame them what's going on out 46 00:02:52,540 --> 00:02:49,190 there and Jasper of Indiana or the 47 00:02:57,430 --> 00:02:52,550 streets empty or they normally are no no 48 00:03:01,150 --> 00:02:57,440 it's a Jasper's a fairly good-sized town 49 00:03:03,790 --> 00:03:01,160 you know it's a manufacturing outlet so 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:03,800 I mean there's it's it's always always 51 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:07,610 busy busy there's a lot of international 52 00:03:11,770 --> 00:03:10,370 travel here as well but that's that's 53 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:11,780 been all shut down 54 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:13,910 you know because of the core the 55 00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:15,260 quarantine you know the governor of 56 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:19,760 Indiana is told everybody to stay in 57 00:03:26,410 --> 00:03:23,420 place where at least least two weeks and 58 00:03:30,450 --> 00:03:26,420 the kids are home from school my wife 59 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:30,460 she is she's working working from home 60 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:36,470 for for her job and and what I saw 61 00:03:41,290 --> 00:03:38,270 something the other day is like what is 62 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:41,300 it it's seven days into the quarantine 63 00:03:53,140 --> 00:03:44,690 and I'm already sick of babysitting my 64 00:03:56,530 --> 00:03:53,150 mother's grandchildren is here if things 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:56,540 hopefully will eventually get back to to 66 00:04:02,470 --> 00:03:58,970 normal although this could happen again 67 00:04:06,370 --> 00:04:02,480 you know I back in the 70s I was editor 68 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:06,380 of front-page disasters magazine her man 69 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:09,200 I did yeah yeah I did it was one of my 70 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:10,850 favorite magazines because it really 71 00:04:15,820 --> 00:04:13,040 taught me a lot about a history and 72 00:04:18,849 --> 00:04:15,830 disasters and I always snuck in at least 73 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:18,859 one kind of offbeat article you know I 74 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:23,290 didn't read a triangle the burgade that 75 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:26,510 went into a bank of clouds in World War 76 00:04:31,810 --> 00:04:29,900 one and never came out again after the 77 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:31,820 clouds lifted you know there's always a 78 00:04:37,330 --> 00:04:35,030 lot of strange disasters in history but 79 00:04:42,820 --> 00:04:37,340 one of the articles he wrote about was 80 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:42,830 the 1918 epidemic that wiped out 81 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:44,750 something like 50 million people all 82 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:46,370 over the world so 83 00:04:52,810 --> 00:04:48,889 we knock on anything now I guess we 84 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:52,820 can't back on anything just wave your 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:55,010 hand in the air six feet away and hope 86 00:04:59,290 --> 00:04:56,810 that nothing like that repeats itself 87 00:05:02,080 --> 00:04:59,300 anyway it's it's time to get on with our 88 00:05:05,460 --> 00:05:02,090 show and I'm really looking forward to 89 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:05,470 the program tonight because it's about a 90 00:05:12,189 --> 00:05:09,470 special friend of mine who passed away 91 00:05:16,180 --> 00:05:12,199 very recently and we have one of his 92 00:05:19,150 --> 00:05:16,190 associates on to talk about his his 93 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:19,160 life's work and what he was doing just 94 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:22,639 before transitioning get to the other 95 00:05:27,070 --> 00:05:24,889 side so a 10-man give us a little 96 00:05:30,010 --> 00:05:27,080 background information if you will 97 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:30,020 sure well our guest tonight is Thomas 98 00:05:36,159 --> 00:05:33,770 from ro now Thomas has worked as a dive 99 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:36,169 master machinist and electrical engineer 100 00:05:41,740 --> 00:05:38,990 on projects in the United States China 101 00:05:46,170 --> 00:05:41,750 and Bermuda now he's been an independent 102 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:46,180 UFO researcher since 1969 to 1998 at 103 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:49,400 which point a Walt Andres founder of 104 00:05:54,670 --> 00:05:51,650 MUFON asked him to become a section 105 00:05:56,850 --> 00:05:54,680 director for move on later he would go 106 00:06:00,310 --> 00:05:56,860 on to be assistant state director for 107 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:00,320 Missouri MUFON and he then co-founded 108 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:05,210 the loofas dive team he then joined 109 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:09,110 Ted Phillips as his assistant in 2006 110 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:12,130 and later become became part of Ted's 111 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:15,650 SIU team and he assisted there Phillips 112 00:06:22,029 --> 00:06:18,560 on his Marley woods projects and his a 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:22,039 tetra Mountain moon shaft project so 114 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:24,050 Thomas thank you very much for being 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:37,000 you know I I hardly know where to begin 116 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:41,090 the the conversation I I would assume 117 00:06:46,659 --> 00:06:44,000 and I'm probably incorrect it to some 118 00:06:49,469 --> 00:06:46,669 degree that our listeners know a little 119 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:49,479 bit about the background in Ted Phillips 120 00:06:55,380 --> 00:06:53,510 having been an associate of a dr. J 121 00:07:00,190 --> 00:06:55,390 Allen Hynek and involved in 122 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:00,200 investigating over 400 physical evidence 123 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:03,710 cases where these objects had landed and 124 00:07:11,230 --> 00:07:05,630 of course in recent years he was staking 125 00:07:14,020 --> 00:07:11,240 out this rural area and Missouri had 126 00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:14,030 known as Marley woods where these 127 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:17,990 mysterious phenomena and anomalies had 128 00:07:23,470 --> 00:07:20,200 been taking place over the course of 129 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:23,480 quite a few years I understand and also 130 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:25,910 involved in the investigation of moon 131 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:31,250 chef in York but why don't you start out 132 00:07:37,690 --> 00:07:34,060 at Tom by giving us a little bit of 133 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:37,700 background on yourself and how you ended 134 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:42,650 up hooking up with Ted Phillips yeah it 135 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:46,910 was actually it started in around 2000 136 00:07:51,820 --> 00:07:49,310 when we had the Missouri International 137 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:51,830 MUFON conference in st. Louis and I 138 00:07:57,730 --> 00:07:55,130 always followed Ted's works and wanted 139 00:07:59,920 --> 00:07:57,740 to hook up with him and speaking with 140 00:08:02,680 --> 00:07:59,930 him at the time and he knew find out I 141 00:08:05,290 --> 00:08:02,690 was an electrician so basically it was 142 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:05,300 the case of I was the grunt and I had 143 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:07,220 the opportunity to do some of the wiring 144 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:10,550 and camera installation and it got in to 145 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:12,530 be that kind of a relationship at first 146 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:16,760 and Marley and which I was glad to do 147 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:19,850 you know and you know I might just throw 148 00:08:21,930 --> 00:08:20,930 in here I just have a little 149 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:21,940 announcement 150 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:24,970 property owners of Marley woods have an 151 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:26,600 announcement to make 152 00:08:32,740 --> 00:08:29,570 that they permanently want their ranches 153 00:08:35,770 --> 00:08:32,750 to be known as the Ted Phillips Marley 154 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:35,780 woods Research Center so this is quite 155 00:08:42,190 --> 00:08:40,010 an honor I mean and then they want me to 156 00:08:46,090 --> 00:08:42,200 be part of them to try to carry on Ted's 157 00:08:49,570 --> 00:08:46,100 work there so you know I feel oh I feel 158 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:49,580 so you know just it's quite an honor it 159 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:52,880 really is and through the years Ted and 160 00:08:58,540 --> 00:08:55,310 I built a good relationship and Marley 161 00:09:01,800 --> 00:08:58,550 in Ted decided we needed more team 162 00:09:06,190 --> 00:09:01,810 members in so we formed a team and 163 00:09:10,090 --> 00:09:06,200 brought in several people and you know 164 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:10,100 we brought in Adam Johnson which is an 165 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:12,650 outstanding videographer now producer in 166 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:14,090 its own right then involved 167 00:09:21,790 --> 00:09:18,290 productions on different sci-fi channel 168 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:21,800 and other channels and we have debbie 169 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:23,810 debbie meyer which is the state director 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:26,410 who fun now is a team member 171 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:28,970 she's also a member star team member 172 00:09:35,710 --> 00:09:32,570 MUFON and I might just add Rodney 173 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:35,720 Dillard from Branson is you might have 174 00:09:41,290 --> 00:09:38,390 heard of the Dillards performers he's 175 00:09:43,810 --> 00:09:41,300 also a team member and of course I've 176 00:09:46,030 --> 00:09:43,820 got to add we have one of Ted's great 177 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:46,040 friends was an advisor to Ted for many 178 00:09:55,230 --> 00:09:51,790 years we have Jacques suave research so 179 00:09:59,020 --> 00:09:55,240 I noticed there's a photo of you in 180 00:10:03,460 --> 00:09:59,030 shock I think it's posted on our our 181 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:03,470 site along the Ted yeah now tell us just 182 00:10:09,310 --> 00:10:06,290 a little bit about what goes on for 183 00:10:11,470 --> 00:10:09,320 those unfamiliar with the site what goes 184 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:11,480 on in Morley woods and what have you 185 00:10:18,010 --> 00:10:15,650 perceived patient I can give you a 186 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:18,020 rundown here a catalog and we can go in 187 00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:19,610 we don't have enough time to get into 188 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:22,160 depth and anything but basically in 189 00:10:28,110 --> 00:10:24,290 Morley woods we have the light ball 190 00:10:32,970 --> 00:10:28,120 phenomena we have the unseen force 191 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:32,980 phenomena strange animals which covers 192 00:10:38,950 --> 00:10:36,050 you just wouldn't imagine the gauntlet 193 00:10:43,380 --> 00:10:38,960 that that covers of late we have ice 194 00:10:47,110 --> 00:10:43,390 tracks we call it and of course the 195 00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:47,120 light beam that we've all experienced 196 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:50,360 out there on us and then it gets into 197 00:10:57,210 --> 00:10:52,160 the real strange things which we call 198 00:11:00,880 --> 00:10:57,220 the horse barn incident which is quite 199 00:11:03,970 --> 00:11:00,890 really bizarre so what I'll do is I'll 200 00:11:06,670 --> 00:11:03,980 let you touch upon anything you sound oh 201 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:06,680 okay well let's start at the Gotham 202 00:11:12,010 --> 00:11:10,160 cattle mutilations and know that well 203 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:12,020 listen let's start at the bottom let's 204 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:14,360 start at the bottom of the list and work 205 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:17,510 our way up to the simple stuff what was 206 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:21,290 the the barn incident okay basically 207 00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:23,690 what the hearts barn incident was that 208 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:25,520 one of the ranchers one day called Tara 209 00:11:30,369 --> 00:11:27,560 and 210 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:30,379 this were actually occurred on the site 211 00:11:37,540 --> 00:11:33,769 - in Marlee woods which is a northern 212 00:11:41,019 --> 00:11:37,550 site and basically Marlee woods 213 00:11:42,970 --> 00:11:41,029 encompasses two miles east and west and 214 00:11:44,530 --> 00:11:42,980 three miles north and south so that 215 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:44,540 gives you the some of the idea of the 216 00:11:50,590 --> 00:11:47,600 scale that we we run around on out there 217 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:50,600 and basically what the horse barn a 218 00:11:55,449 --> 00:11:52,490 rancher went up to his had his prized 219 00:11:58,540 --> 00:11:55,459 horse in the barn it's going to go on do 220 00:12:00,629 --> 00:11:58,550 his chores and run the fences checked on 221 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:00,639 his horse his horse was fine in the barn 222 00:12:04,150 --> 00:12:03,740 thirty minutes later he came back to the 223 00:12:07,809 --> 00:12:04,160 barn 224 00:12:10,329 --> 00:12:07,819 the gate was knocked down and this is 225 00:12:12,879 --> 00:12:10,339 one of those wanted Ted strangest cases 226 00:12:16,299 --> 00:12:12,889 the virtually the franchard called this 227 00:12:18,579 --> 00:12:16,309 in and the only bad part about this 228 00:12:21,009 --> 00:12:18,589 whole deal was he didn't want to talk 229 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:21,019 speak with Ted about this for six months 230 00:12:25,629 --> 00:12:23,809 it was just so bizarre but virtually 231 00:12:28,199 --> 00:12:25,639 what the rancher found when he went in 232 00:12:31,299 --> 00:12:28,209 the barn was what had been a perfectly 233 00:12:34,179 --> 00:12:31,309 healthy horse 30 minutes earlier 234 00:12:38,530 --> 00:12:34,189 well his horse now has turned into horse 235 00:12:41,230 --> 00:12:38,540 meat it's on the upper loft period it's 236 00:12:44,619 --> 00:12:41,240 on the gates it's on the floor it's just 237 00:12:47,670 --> 00:12:44,629 remnants of this horse and he said it 238 00:12:52,030 --> 00:12:47,680 looked like it had exploded in this farm 239 00:12:56,319 --> 00:12:52,040 so we went in and did some soil analysis 240 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:56,329 picked up samples and uh you know six 241 00:13:01,960 --> 00:12:58,850 months later was the problem though if 242 00:13:04,809 --> 00:13:01,970 he - got us there earlier you know it 243 00:13:08,110 --> 00:13:04,819 was we did see signs of blood and such 244 00:13:10,749 --> 00:13:08,120 in there yet but this so disturbed his 245 00:13:12,850 --> 00:13:10,759 farmer that 6:00 we were in there one 246 00:13:18,129 --> 00:13:12,860 time and when we left when we got back 247 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:18,139 he had burned the barn down oh my 248 00:13:23,199 --> 00:13:21,110 goodness well now what have you actually 249 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:23,209 seen there there you know you you 250 00:13:29,319 --> 00:13:27,050 mentioned about tracks in the ice yeah 251 00:13:32,860 --> 00:13:29,329 no that's a new phenomenon to be honest 252 00:13:35,290 --> 00:13:32,870 with you I have not been out there in 253 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:35,300 this new one of our researchers Rodney 254 00:13:40,629 --> 00:13:37,910 Dillard and Ted actually had looked into 255 00:13:41,170 --> 00:13:40,639 this and the last it was one of Ted's 256 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:41,180 last 257 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:44,720 the investigations and virtually what 258 00:13:51,250 --> 00:13:47,510 you have and this is high strangeness 259 00:13:54,430 --> 00:13:51,260 again on small ponds you have tracks 260 00:13:57,690 --> 00:13:54,440 that approach 13 inches in diameter with 261 00:14:01,690 --> 00:13:57,700 more of a pronounced three toe 262 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:01,700 aperture on them and the strange part of 263 00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:04,160 this is you you would think a 13 inch 264 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:07,040 track you're dealing with considerable 265 00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:09,920 weight there you know and but this was 266 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:12,920 on light ice that wouldn't sustain a 267 00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:16,490 person this would not withstand a person 268 00:14:21,820 --> 00:14:19,220 stepping on this ice they appeared to be 269 00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:21,830 melted in the surface of the ice and in 270 00:14:27,190 --> 00:14:24,440 the parallel went across the ice across 271 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:27,200 the pond and case started coming up the 272 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:28,730 bank and then that was it they just 273 00:14:39,790 --> 00:14:33,530 disappeared so how many how many how 274 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:39,800 many occasions was it just one sir yes 275 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:44,660 yeah mm-hmm and okay so now I understand 276 00:14:51,730 --> 00:14:48,830 that you're you are a involved in diving 277 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:51,740 there's other anomalies that are going 278 00:14:57,970 --> 00:14:55,730 on in the and the ponds there there were 279 00:15:01,630 --> 00:14:57,980 quite a few I mean we got into cave 280 00:15:03,430 --> 00:15:01,640 exploration out there and you know it 281 00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:03,440 just it just covered the gauntlet us 282 00:15:09,610 --> 00:15:06,620 during high strangeness you know we 283 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:09,620 could get into the animals and you know 284 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:13,610 I was fortunate I was with Ted when he 285 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:15,650 had one of his you know when the 286 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:18,710 researcher has experiences and becomes 287 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:21,230 of the reach part of the research that's 288 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:24,890 really unique and I was fortunate to be 289 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:27,020 with Ted Phillips when he had his most 290 00:15:34,570 --> 00:15:30,800 astounding experience at Marley and what 291 00:15:36,130 --> 00:15:34,580 was that that was to the light beam 292 00:15:40,590 --> 00:15:36,140 phenomena 293 00:15:45,550 --> 00:15:40,600 all right myself and give us some help 294 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:45,560 give us a go with what what that really 295 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:47,540 wasn't there was dead and I was going 296 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:51,410 down a long private really when would 297 00:16:01,820 --> 00:15:54,690 this have been this would probably 298 00:16:03,050 --> 00:16:01,830 then in around 2009 okay and virtually 299 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:03,060 what that was we were going down a 300 00:16:09,230 --> 00:16:05,730 private road on this rant 1200 acres on 301 00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:09,240 a private gravel road no way your gets 302 00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:12,750 gated in and out we were coming out of 303 00:16:18,860 --> 00:16:15,060 there in a long night of surveillance 304 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:18,870 and all of a sudden this light beam from 305 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:21,390 behind comes up and illuminates the 306 00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:24,690 whole interior of our truck to a degree 307 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:27,750 of pure white light and I hate to you 308 00:16:33,890 --> 00:16:29,730 know do a parallel to Close Encounters 309 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:33,900 but that's what it was and you know you 310 00:16:40,940 --> 00:16:37,230 could see the dashboard the grain in the 311 00:16:44,570 --> 00:16:40,950 vinyl and I said to Ted at this point I 312 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:44,580 said Ted are you seen this and Ted said 313 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:48,690 well hell yes I'm seeing this Tom so we 314 00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:53,040 both I slammed on my brakes was apart 315 00:16:56,660 --> 00:16:54,720 Ted didn't like to talk about too much 316 00:16:58,340 --> 00:16:56,670 years later because he always wanted to 317 00:17:01,820 --> 00:16:58,350 do the research before we made any 318 00:17:04,370 --> 00:17:01,830 statements when we jumped out of the 319 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:04,380 vehicle and we looked up where the light 320 00:17:09,740 --> 00:17:07,079 source was coming from all we could see 321 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:09,750 for just a brief instant was the remnant 322 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:12,240 of I could describe it as just like a 323 00:17:19,579 --> 00:17:15,089 blind closing or an aperture and a 324 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:19,589 camera closing and it was gone and you 325 00:17:27,620 --> 00:17:22,160 know that was something that that really 326 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:27,630 said Ted back and it really really 327 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:32,210 brought to home that porta dr. hynek's 328 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:34,740 opinion that Ted had a little bit of 329 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:36,720 problem with over the years because Ted 330 00:17:42,890 --> 00:17:38,910 was a nuts-and-bolts man you know he 331 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:42,900 wants yeah you know do the research and 332 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:45,990 uh this is really confirmed 333 00:17:52,820 --> 00:17:49,610 you know dr. Hynek I might tell you that 334 00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:52,830 they had more or less thought that this 335 00:17:59,600 --> 00:17:56,310 was all frequency driven this phenomenon 336 00:18:05,070 --> 00:17:59,610 and basically what that is in layman's 337 00:18:09,749 --> 00:18:08,279 well I I know that of course for a long 338 00:18:13,109 --> 00:18:09,759 time 339 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:13,119 Hynek was a nuts and bolts of researcher 340 00:18:20,159 --> 00:18:17,110 as the majority of people were including 341 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:20,169 I guess myself for a period and then as 342 00:18:26,399 --> 00:18:23,110 things got stranger and stranger it 343 00:18:29,299 --> 00:18:26,409 became obvious that we had to be dealing 344 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:29,309 with something that was more of a of a 345 00:18:34,739 --> 00:18:32,080 paranormal in nature and I know I talked 346 00:18:36,529 --> 00:18:34,749 to Ted about this a couple of times and 347 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:36,539 he has spent all these years 348 00:18:42,690 --> 00:18:40,480 investigating the trace of cases and 349 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:42,700 looking for physical evidence and then 350 00:18:49,139 --> 00:18:46,960 he slowly realized that the course of 351 00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:49,149 the phenomena phenomena or the patterns 352 00:18:57,060 --> 00:18:51,580 involved were getting away from that and 353 00:18:58,590 --> 00:18:57,070 getting into other elements yes and you 354 00:19:02,580 --> 00:18:58,600 know that's that's the great thing about 355 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:02,590 Ted's work is as hard based as he was 356 00:19:07,349 --> 00:19:05,320 doing the true science and believe me he 357 00:19:10,409 --> 00:19:07,359 he beat that into us you know about 358 00:19:12,659 --> 00:19:10,419 doing it the scientific approach but Ted 359 00:19:16,019 --> 00:19:12,669 was always prepared to go where the 360 00:19:19,710 --> 00:19:16,029 evidence the science let him when you 361 00:19:23,009 --> 00:19:19,720 know when this morphed into something 362 00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:23,019 more than structured craft Ted went with 363 00:19:30,690 --> 00:19:26,799 evidence you know and that's why so much 364 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:30,700 of the white ball activity just really 365 00:19:34,529 --> 00:19:32,470 blew him away and you know Ted really 366 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:34,539 hasn't seen anything himself till he got 367 00:19:42,629 --> 00:19:39,850 to Marley woods now when when did when 368 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:42,639 did this first start developing what 369 00:19:49,889 --> 00:19:47,289 what year Marley woods actually Ted's 370 00:19:55,229 --> 00:19:49,899 been there going there for actually 20 371 00:19:59,879 --> 00:19:55,239 years now and what was the last time 372 00:20:08,220 --> 00:19:59,889 that anybody visited the there probably 373 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:08,230 I would say 2016 maybe early 17 well are 374 00:20:14,999 --> 00:20:11,529 there are there plans to continue the 375 00:20:17,249 --> 00:20:15,009 research there oh yeah yeah yeah we're 376 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:17,259 we're getting the team back together we 377 00:20:21,659 --> 00:20:18,970 plan to continue to work 378 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:21,669 we have the full assistant now of the 379 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:25,510 ranchers and you know to be honest with 380 00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:26,650 you would I 381 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:29,980 I'm in contact with a with the property 382 00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:33,730 owners every every other week and they 383 00:20:39,419 --> 00:20:35,380 want us back down there and as soon as 384 00:20:42,570 --> 00:20:39,429 this damn virus gets burnt oh yeah we're 385 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:42,580 gonna be down there because I think have 386 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:46,510 they reported anything happening since 387 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:49,510 yeah there's less land in what what 388 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:52,799 degree what what's been going on yeah 389 00:20:57,810 --> 00:20:55,840 this this stuff seems to read your 390 00:21:00,500 --> 00:20:57,820 weakness and when it knows we can't be 391 00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:00,510 down there it it basically goes crazy 392 00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:03,520 one of the property owners said that his 393 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:05,320 grandsons were down there at one of the 394 00:21:12,690 --> 00:21:10,289 cabins on the southern side and 395 00:21:15,390 --> 00:21:12,700 experienced the amber lights just to a 396 00:21:19,529 --> 00:21:15,400 degree intensity that they've never seen 397 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:19,539 before and even even the animal the 398 00:21:25,409 --> 00:21:22,030 strange animals we get out there have 399 00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:25,419 increased so I just want to throw in 400 00:21:31,950 --> 00:21:29,919 when Ted and Jacques Vallee had thrown 401 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:31,960 this and he thought that that Marley was 402 00:21:38,399 --> 00:21:35,010 so much more than even skinwalker ranch 403 00:21:41,159 --> 00:21:38,409 because you name it at skinwalker 404 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:41,169 and we just when I think we haven't had 405 00:21:47,970 --> 00:21:44,890 that if something similar happens well 406 00:21:50,779 --> 00:21:47,980 we we did a book recently UFOs deja vu 407 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:50,789 and you know it turns out that there are 408 00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:53,650 a number of these places of course 409 00:22:00,539 --> 00:21:57,900 there's the st. Louis Valley in Colorado 410 00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:00,549 where Chris O'Brien has been 411 00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:02,230 investigating there all the activity 412 00:22:09,930 --> 00:22:05,679 there there's the area around yeah yeah 413 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:09,940 there's the area around Sedona Arizona 414 00:22:17,010 --> 00:22:14,890 that um dango has staked out for many 415 00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:17,020 years there and taken all these 416 00:22:24,180 --> 00:22:20,460 incredible photographs there's of course 417 00:22:28,169 --> 00:22:24,190 a new a New England has quite a hotbed 418 00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:28,179 of activity on and often Linda Zimmerman 419 00:22:32,669 --> 00:22:31,030 has been involved in and keeping it at 420 00:22:34,590 --> 00:22:32,679 track up so 421 00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:34,600 there are these patterns but that's 422 00:22:42,659 --> 00:22:37,499 certainly Marley woods there certainly 423 00:22:46,109 --> 00:22:42,669 encompasses all of this now though when 424 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:46,119 this first began was it more simplistic 425 00:22:50,399 --> 00:22:48,970 than it is now I mean that it started 426 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:50,409 out with small lights and lights 427 00:22:55,619 --> 00:22:53,200 continued to grow and I believe Ted told 428 00:22:58,859 --> 00:22:55,629 me that there was some phenomena that 429 00:23:02,820 --> 00:22:58,869 was actually taking place inside the one 430 00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:02,830 of the farm houses yes yes 431 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:06,840 the white ball activity you know it has 432 00:23:16,350 --> 00:23:11,700 morphed and grown it seems like into 433 00:23:18,899 --> 00:23:16,360 just going into other branches of you 434 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:18,909 know I could say the the light ball 435 00:23:24,269 --> 00:23:21,490 activity was goes back decades in this 436 00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,279 area I mean I might as far back as the 437 00:23:28,379 --> 00:23:26,559 ranchers can remember they used to used 438 00:23:30,299 --> 00:23:28,389 to have picnics and go out at night and 439 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:30,309 watch the lights and all right let me 440 00:23:33,389 --> 00:23:32,289 interrupt you here at ton Thomas let me 441 00:23:35,129 --> 00:23:33,399 interrupt you because we have to go to 442 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:35,139 our bottom of the break when we come 443 00:23:39,090 --> 00:23:37,330 back we'll continue our conversation 444 00:23:48,970 --> 00:23:39,100 about Marley woods and other weird 445 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:53,149 now back to exploring the bazaars with 446 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:55,710 two of the most electrifying researchers 447 00:24:04,039 --> 00:23:59,010 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 448 00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:04,049 Lee Anton's was welcome back to 449 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:05,940 exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Swartz 450 00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:09,809 tonight we're talking about the the live 451 00:24:15,169 --> 00:24:11,940 or at least some of the life of the late 452 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:15,179 great Ted Phillips our guest is Thomas 453 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:17,250 Ferrari Oh am I saying that right 454 00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:24,330 Darla's now when we would we had to go 455 00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:27,900 to our break you were telling us about I 456 00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:32,159 guess the the early phenomena there 457 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:35,580 Marly woods which consisted of you say 458 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:37,230 there's amber colored lights that were 459 00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:41,370 being seen yeah it actually started with 460 00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:44,580 the northern mystery light which is a 461 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:48,780 pretty normal phenomena there it's 462 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:51,690 really regular like every other night at 463 00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:54,690 least it's in the same location goes 464 00:25:00,590 --> 00:24:58,559 vertical those down and extinguishes and 465 00:25:04,190 --> 00:25:00,600 that's usually the end of that siding 466 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:04,200 but then we have the the light ball the 467 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:07,049 white little white balls that go around 468 00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:10,110 that are size of a softball 469 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:11,940 they go through and that was actually 470 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:13,890 one of Ted's first sightings when he was 471 00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:15,289 out there 472 00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:19,679 professional with a with a camcorder in 473 00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:21,960 his hand and he was talking to the 474 00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:24,990 property owner and property owner Ted 475 00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:27,480 says well you know when when does this 476 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:29,640 stuff start and the property owner says 477 00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:31,890 well well Ted it started there right 478 00:25:36,919 --> 00:25:34,679 there in the tree so Ted stood there 479 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,929 watching this object and the property 480 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:39,360 owner told that he said well Ted I don't 481 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:41,070 know too much about this stuff but 482 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:43,650 shouldn't your camera be pointed at the 483 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,770 object that grabbed his camera and 484 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:48,720 seasoned professionals he was you know 485 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:51,150 and out of a three minute sighting he 486 00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:53,460 got like 30 seconds at the end of it you 487 00:25:58,430 --> 00:25:56,880 know and so and that's like Ted said 488 00:26:00,830 --> 00:25:58,440 this stuff catches you and 489 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:00,840 when you first see it yourself it just 490 00:26:06,019 --> 00:26:04,110 it's really from all the years 491 00:26:09,889 --> 00:26:06,029 investigating when you start seeing all 492 00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:09,899 this it's but yeah it's the light balls 493 00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:12,299 and then they progressed into larger 494 00:26:22,129 --> 00:26:15,600 ones and like you mentioned amber lights 495 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:22,139 are much larger intense source of amber 496 00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:26,250 type of radiation then you have the the 497 00:26:32,450 --> 00:26:29,340 yellow just yellow not amber but yellow 498 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:32,460 and the ones you really have to watch 499 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:34,590 out for you you know you're dealing with 500 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:37,710 a huge amount of capability and force is 501 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:41,279 the red lights really when you see the 502 00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:45,049 red light balls you know you're in for 503 00:27:01,850 --> 00:26:57,830 and do you does anyone know I mean how 504 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:01,860 long has this activity been been taking 505 00:27:07,009 --> 00:27:03,690 place in this area and perhaps I should 506 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,019 say the current landowners I mean is 507 00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:10,320 this a something that's been in the 508 00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:13,500 family for several generations or are 509 00:27:20,259 --> 00:27:16,590 they basically nuke newcomers we we've 510 00:27:24,019 --> 00:27:20,269 gone back close to a hundred years hmm 511 00:27:25,639 --> 00:27:24,029 if that tells you anything the old 512 00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:25,649 timers used to call some of the 513 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:27,950 phenomena they call the when there's a 514 00:27:32,659 --> 00:27:30,570 sometimes out in like the seven acre 515 00:27:34,999 --> 00:27:32,669 field there's what they call twinkle 516 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:35,009 lights where they they get lawn chairs 517 00:27:38,419 --> 00:27:36,360 and go out there and watch it in the 518 00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,429 summer that there'd be little thousands 519 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:40,799 of little lights that cover this field 520 00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:44,940 and it's just incredible stuff like that 521 00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:46,230 you know and then the light ball 522 00:27:54,289 --> 00:27:51,809 activity and you know we've had the 523 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,299 nearby town out there there were two 524 00:28:00,379 --> 00:27:57,120 lawyers and there actually is a cemetery 525 00:28:02,539 --> 00:28:00,389 out there and there were two lawyers I 526 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:02,549 thought this was all a joke that hurt 527 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:04,860 some of the ranchers they did some of 528 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:06,210 their work and they came out there one 529 00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:09,090 night just poked fun at him a little bit 530 00:28:12,019 --> 00:28:11,159 and they're out in the cemetery about 531 00:28:16,249 --> 00:28:12,029 eight 532 00:28:18,109 --> 00:28:16,259 for the port and all of a sudden I know 533 00:28:24,109 --> 00:28:18,119 that sounds like a bad joke at two 534 00:28:26,239 --> 00:28:24,119 lawyers in the cemetery they start 535 00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:26,249 seeing eight eight of these light balls 536 00:28:31,539 --> 00:28:29,009 pop up from the ground level out in the 537 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:31,549 middle of the field go into a formation 538 00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:35,450 and one by one they instantly shoot 539 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:38,639 about 200 foot between the two lawyers 540 00:28:43,129 --> 00:28:41,369 and just break their formation and each 541 00:28:47,019 --> 00:28:43,139 one like they're trying to show these 542 00:28:49,339 --> 00:28:47,029 guys something and just go right between 543 00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:49,349 basically their heads out there in the 544 00:28:57,499 --> 00:28:52,440 cemetery and no here again you know no 545 00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:57,509 no windows no smell no well there wasn't 546 00:29:07,700 --> 00:28:59,039 any smell to after this happened I 547 00:29:10,129 --> 00:29:07,710 suppose but it's you know and then they 548 00:29:13,940 --> 00:29:10,139 can exhibit great force one of Ted's 549 00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:13,950 primary cases that he he just that shows 550 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:17,700 the true nature of these things and 551 00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:19,529 there again that involved a red red 552 00:29:23,959 --> 00:29:21,809 light ball was there's a man that has a 553 00:29:27,019 --> 00:29:23,969 junkyard right down the road from the 554 00:29:30,739 --> 00:29:27,029 cemetery and I'm not being smooth 555 00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:30,749 actually as a junkyard and he's got 556 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:32,519 security cameras up and it's caught a 557 00:29:37,969 --> 00:29:35,820 lot a lot of footage over the years but 558 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:37,979 one night they were him and his wife 559 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:40,049 were sitting there and watching TV and 560 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:42,210 all of a sudden the picture tube cracks 561 00:29:47,509 --> 00:29:45,419 and what he described us in coming out 562 00:29:50,539 --> 00:29:47,519 of the the fissure the crack in this the 563 00:29:53,509 --> 00:29:50,549 picture tube the glass had just 564 00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:53,519 literally powdered and shot out on the 565 00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,059 floor 566 00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:56,399 well they run up to the television set 567 00:30:01,969 --> 00:29:59,039 to see this effect and all of a sudden 568 00:30:03,829 --> 00:30:01,979 in the there on a to Lowell house I 569 00:30:06,619 --> 00:30:03,839 might add with a garage door in the 570 00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:06,629 bottom all of a sudden they just the 571 00:30:11,959 --> 00:30:09,659 whole building just shakes and they get 572 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:11,969 up to the window look out and he had had 573 00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:14,129 a full-size four-wheel drive Dodge 574 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:16,070 pickup down there with the engine out 575 00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:19,190 locked in gear and the tires were flat 576 00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:23,609 and this thing had been pushed up the 577 00:30:27,290 --> 00:30:25,500 driveway 578 00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:27,300 and that he had a tow bar on the front 579 00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:29,670 of this truck the tow bar went through 580 00:30:34,670 --> 00:30:32,100 the garage door and the grill the truck 581 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:34,680 was right up pushing in the garage door 582 00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:38,430 Wow now what does that kind of force you 583 00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:43,350 know and why and they you know we had 584 00:30:48,170 --> 00:30:45,150 that five people got out there and tried 585 00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:48,180 to push his budgets truck and you know 586 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:50,700 Ted said that you know there just was no 587 00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:54,030 explanation for this you know so that's 588 00:31:00,860 --> 00:30:56,910 that's a lot of power there oh yeah yeah 589 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:00,870 yeah and you know as Ted said no you 590 00:31:07,340 --> 00:31:02,610 know is this something that they're 591 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:07,350 trying to to warn people or is it maybe 592 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:10,260 you know did they misjudge were they 593 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:14,250 trying to beam this truck up or levitate 594 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:16,170 this truck and they misjudged the weight 595 00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:20,250 or you know there's been other cases 596 00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:23,520 where there's been cattle out there that 597 00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:26,280 have been you can see the typically the 598 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:28,860 cattle are beamed up and but this time 599 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:30,870 there's there's been instances where 600 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,690 these things been drug through the up 601 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:36,240 and through the treetops and just back 602 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:38,490 and forth back and forth until they're 603 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:41,130 just like a bloody pulp and fall down on 604 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,930 the ground now 605 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:45,360 did they misjudge their capabilities or 606 00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:48,330 the true weight of these objects you 607 00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:51,390 know that's that's interesting because 608 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:53,940 that's a characteristic that I have seen 609 00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:56,730 in other of these kind of like hot spot 610 00:32:04,070 --> 00:31:59,100 locations yeah like the skinwalker ranch 611 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:04,080 is that whatever this this is whatever 612 00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:07,290 these energies are they they seem to be 613 00:32:13,340 --> 00:32:09,870 extremely callous towards animals you 614 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,350 know a lot of mutilation --zz lot of 615 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:16,320 just you know it just seems you know 616 00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:21,570 they just have it out for animals but 617 00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:24,480 however it's all it's it's bait it's 618 00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:26,039 almost the opposite when it comes to 619 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:28,950 people you you very rarely hear of 620 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:33,690 anybody ever being hurt to any serious 621 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:37,890 yeah extend at these locations right and 622 00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:40,530 you know if they're if they're and I 623 00:32:44,289 --> 00:32:42,120 mean we've had I'll be honest we've 624 00:32:46,669 --> 00:32:44,299 we've had a little bit of that in Marley 625 00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:46,679 there's been some side effects that 626 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:49,320 haven't been that Pleasant but it's 627 00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:52,230 always I believe as an artifact of their 628 00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:54,750 craft or propulsion system and I do I do 629 00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:56,700 not believe it's intentional I really 630 00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:00,840 don't as you stated so when you say 631 00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:04,620 craft and propulsion system what do you 632 00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:08,400 mean what do you think is is going on I 633 00:33:13,870 --> 00:33:10,380 mean do you think that you are dealing 634 00:33:15,740 --> 00:33:13,880 with you know some kind of 635 00:33:19,010 --> 00:33:15,750 extraterrestrial intelligence that's 636 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:19,020 using you know physical craft or or or 637 00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:22,770 what you know we really believe that 638 00:33:29,060 --> 00:33:27,030 it's actually both and I will tell you 639 00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:29,070 that the determination that has come out 640 00:33:34,909 --> 00:33:31,230 of this over the years that Ted thought 641 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:34,919 he'd never say that him and Hynek Hynek 642 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:36,690 was trying to impress us on him and 643 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:39,929 finally Ted came around but what's going 644 00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:43,740 on out at Marley and we just I put my 645 00:33:48,940 --> 00:33:46,620 stock in J on high Nick and Ted over 646 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:48,950 anybody else until they prove me wrong 647 00:33:55,730 --> 00:33:52,610 but this is all interdimensional and not 648 00:33:58,010 --> 00:33:55,740 interplanetary mm-hmm and that's the one 649 00:34:02,840 --> 00:33:58,020 one thing I can tell you they came out 650 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:02,850 of this with and you know it's there are 651 00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:05,220 physical structured craft that come 652 00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,639 through I mean we've had black 653 00:34:12,139 --> 00:34:10,800 cylindrical craft out here property 654 00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:12,149 owners were going home one night and 655 00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:14,220 seeing I mean you're talking about 656 00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:16,230 something that approaches over a 657 00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:18,540 football field land in length black 658 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:21,990 cylindrical jet black craft and at this 659 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:23,850 point they actually had seen the light 660 00:34:26,870 --> 00:34:25,440 ball was coming out of one end of this 661 00:34:29,090 --> 00:34:26,880 craft 662 00:34:31,130 --> 00:34:29,100 and that was the only time we've that 663 00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:31,140 was the first and only time we've ever 664 00:34:38,150 --> 00:34:34,070 had a structured craft signing at Marley 665 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:38,160 and I mean so it you know it's all 666 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:43,490 together out there it's all related well 667 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:48,210 talking about Ted himself what what kind 668 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:52,890 of what kind of man was he and what do 669 00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:54,690 you have any idea what what got him 670 00:35:00,980 --> 00:34:57,840 interested in this subject to begin with 671 00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:00,990 yeah I'll tell you what I don't know how 672 00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:05,030 many people know this but Ted had a an 673 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:07,020 instinctual interest in this subject 674 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:08,850 when he was a child anyway but his 675 00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:12,000 father introduced him at the time he he 676 00:35:21,350 --> 00:35:17,240 was born in Sedalia Missouri in 1942 and 677 00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:21,360 his father thought he he had heard a 678 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:23,340 report on the news and knew that Ted 679 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:25,050 would be interested so his father 680 00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:27,810 actually went out and what it was it was 681 00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:32,460 a world war two fighter pilot that it 682 00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:35,670 had reported on the news that night that 683 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:37,590 he had had a close encounter er UFO 684 00:35:44,090 --> 00:35:41,280 sighting and his father went and got Ted 685 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:44,100 and took him and they had interviewed 686 00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:47,490 this man and the fighter pilot to him in 687 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:50,820 World War two about the close-up I mean 688 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:53,640 you're talking me amber-coloured 30 foot 689 00:36:00,080 --> 00:35:56,130 dist a hundred foot from the cockpit of 690 00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:00,090 this fighter plane and like Ted said it 691 00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:02,190 doesn't get any better than that as far 692 00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:06,150 as eyewitness you know so that's what 693 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:09,560 got ki Ted keyed into this research and 694 00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,650 that's what got him started for the 695 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:14,880 along with other things the physical 696 00:36:17,570 --> 00:36:16,770 tracer aspect of it did Knutson well 697 00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:17,580 Sakura 698 00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:20,280 so when he was what 20 years old he he 699 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:22,830 took a trip down to a Sakura and that's 700 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:26,700 where he met the Hynek right and he was 701 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:29,370 he met Hynek and another gentleman named 702 00:36:33,530 --> 00:36:32,730 ray Stanford was there I you you may 703 00:36:36,350 --> 00:36:33,540 hurt him 704 00:36:38,690 --> 00:36:36,360 oh yeah he's a good friend of mine he 705 00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:38,700 wrote the saucer and the Pentagon cloth 706 00:36:42,050 --> 00:36:40,620 closet I believe it 707 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:42,060 so long I believe that's the book he 708 00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:44,670 gave me a copy but but the three of them 709 00:36:51,890 --> 00:36:49,710 actually did Socorro and Reyes actually 710 00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:51,900 it's so sad because before Ted passed 711 00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:52,560 away 712 00:36:58,940 --> 00:36:55,670 Rey and Ted were going to write the 713 00:37:00,650 --> 00:36:58,950 Socorro close case book on that they 714 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:00,660 actually were going to do this it had 715 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:03,330 never really been done sufficiently Ted 716 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:06,480 felt you know so it's a shame that'll 717 00:37:16,330 --> 00:37:13,530 never be done now you know so and we 718 00:37:22,070 --> 00:37:16,340 would be remiss I know Tim if we didn't 719 00:37:23,570 --> 00:37:22,080 bring up the the moon shafts which I 720 00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:23,580 think that's probably the first thing 721 00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:28,110 that that I ever read about from from 722 00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:33,660 Ted what just had you know we're rapidly 723 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:36,120 as always running out of time but maybe 724 00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:38,370 you want to give us give our audience 725 00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:41,820 who may not be familiar with with with 726 00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:44,190 this and why he had Ted was so 727 00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:46,920 interested in it I can give you a quick 728 00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:49,860 very brief rundown of it it's one of the 729 00:37:54,980 --> 00:37:52,020 most intriguing cases and unfortunately 730 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:54,990 Ted we had a window of opportunity to 731 00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:57,930 get there and that window is shut now of 732 00:38:02,080 --> 00:37:59,520 course with Ted passing he's the only 733 00:38:05,140 --> 00:38:02,090 other human being along with the 734 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:05,150 sheepherders in Slovakia that were there 735 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:07,710 so I feel it'll never be found that 736 00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:10,290 roughly in a just in a nutshell here was 737 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:14,280 Anton horik was a Czech mining engineer 738 00:38:20,110 --> 00:38:16,710 that came from a wealthy family and the 739 00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:20,120 Nazis invaded took his farm took his 740 00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:22,710 every problem piece of property they had 741 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:25,470 and Anton Horrocks family had the first 742 00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,010 uranium mines that Madame Curie actually 743 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:31,200 bought uranium from if you can believe 744 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,490 that it's just but they imprisoned Anton 745 00:38:39,530 --> 00:38:37,920 hora and he escaped and he went and 746 00:38:43,070 --> 00:38:39,540 joined the Czech underground 747 00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:43,080 well they one night in their camp the 748 00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:46,500 Nazis attacked him and four of them got 749 00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:49,230 away one of them died three of them 750 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:51,990 besides Anton got into the mountains 751 00:38:56,420 --> 00:38:53,970 they were all wounded 752 00:38:59,900 --> 00:38:56,430 one to the point almost passing away and 753 00:39:04,940 --> 00:38:59,910 the sheep herder found them took him put 754 00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:04,950 him in a cave hid him in a cave and the 755 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:08,280 one son the father of the one young boy 756 00:39:12,980 --> 00:39:10,170 he came back brought him some food 757 00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:12,990 bandages and that and told him do not go 758 00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:15,180 back father in that cave it's haunted 759 00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:16,920 and he blessed him getting the blessing 760 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:19,580 on because people in that area are 761 00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:23,090 superstitious about caves anyway well 762 00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:26,400 Anton just to kill time and he was a 763 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:28,980 mining engineer and he been at a lot of 764 00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:32,010 caves and such he decides he's going to 765 00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:34,740 go exploring so he works his way back 766 00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:37,230 into this cave and crawls in the part of 767 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:40,590 the cave and he has a carbon torch here 768 00:39:46,220 --> 00:39:42,690 and he holds it up and Ted actually has 769 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,230 that torch he holds it up and he's seen 770 00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:48,720 framed in the rock in stalagmites and 771 00:39:55,490 --> 00:39:52,380 stalactites this black onyx type mere 772 00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:55,500 glass finished object crescent shape 773 00:40:01,220 --> 00:39:57,660 embedded as far as he can see in the 774 00:40:04,099 --> 00:40:01,230 rock up vertically and down with a crack 775 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:04,109 the fissure in the side so he gets up to 776 00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:07,770 it actually has to take this it's so 777 00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:10,320 small and tight he has to actually take 778 00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:12,900 most of his clothes off he crawls 779 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:15,390 through this fissure in this moon shaft 780 00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:20,609 they was later named gets inside it he 781 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:23,070 gets as he crawls through he slides down 782 00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:25,890 about three foot and hits the bottom of 783 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:29,700 this object which he made he made a 784 00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:31,410 practice of getting back to this thing 785 00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:33,750 back and forth for five days while he 786 00:40:40,579 --> 00:40:35,790 was in this cave in the meantime taking 787 00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:40,589 care of his men which one died and but 788 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:42,750 anyway he gets into this the last day 789 00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:47,490 and he he digs through like 18 inches of 790 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:49,440 dirt and settlement and he actually 791 00:40:56,089 --> 00:40:53,330 finds in the settlement the cave there 792 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:56,099 remnants of fossils of cave bear and 793 00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:58,770 cave bear teeth he puts those in his 794 00:41:04,579 --> 00:41:01,440 pocket which Teta and he gave Ted some 795 00:41:07,790 --> 00:41:04,589 of those as he digs through the bottom 796 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:07,800 of this as he gets to the final 797 00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:10,290 bottom with their small particles they 798 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:12,990 fly up and hit him in the face and he 799 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,130 feels warm air so he breaks it away as 800 00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:19,200 best he can and gets his light down 801 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:19,710 there 802 00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:23,520 and what he describes as a wavy one-inch 803 00:41:30,350 --> 00:41:26,190 square grid pattern is in this thing 804 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:30,360 with warm air coming up out of it so he 805 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:32,610 puts his ear down on the grid and he 806 00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:34,710 hears what he described and this man is 807 00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:36,630 a mining engineer with several degrees 808 00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:39,300 and he knows he knows equipment he knows 809 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:43,140 natural you know what should be and what 810 00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:45,690 shouldn't be there and he he describes 811 00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:48,720 what he can hear is the sound of large 812 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:51,480 turbines running at a great distance 813 00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:54,690 down below throwing up warm air through 814 00:42:02,270 --> 00:41:58,680 this grid pattern now what is that you 815 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:02,280 know it it makes no geological sense 816 00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:05,370 it's it's an artificially made structure 817 00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:09,990 but for what purpose and that basically 818 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:15,030 is the story of moon shaft as well to 819 00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:18,720 this day and Ted actually found the site 820 00:42:24,980 --> 00:42:21,510 he explored on top of it he got to where 821 00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:24,990 he believed was on top of this moon 822 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:27,660 shaft on top of the rock and he actually 823 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:31,050 had a Trifield meter and he had a 824 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:34,170 perfect with the Trifield meter every 825 00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:37,250 three second suite of a of a pulse 826 00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:39,990 electromagnetic pulse underneath him 827 00:42:45,790 --> 00:42:43,550 that this thing was exhibiting now 828 00:42:49,820 --> 00:42:45,800 that's instrumentality that 829 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:49,830 self-maintaining for eons so what is it 830 00:42:58,370 --> 00:42:55,290 you know and you know I might tell you 831 00:43:01,370 --> 00:42:58,380 that it's it's that that's not there are 832 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:01,380 two other objects like this report in 833 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:05,970 different locations so but that was our 834 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:09,330 goal to get back with Ted Ted was there 835 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:11,310 once and got in the cave he feels he 836 00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:13,110 found it he found the bandages in the 837 00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:16,230 front of the cave and basically the the 838 00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:19,560 Nazis had carpet-bomb this area and they 839 00:43:24,350 --> 00:43:21,270 had caused a lot of the roof of this 840 00:43:27,590 --> 00:43:24,360 Cave the cave-in and Ted was in there 841 00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:27,600 with a the one grandson of the the 842 00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:31,860 rancher there and the ranch son son was 843 00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:33,390 he was trying to crawl through all this 844 00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:35,670 rubble in that and Ted back them off and 845 00:43:39,530 --> 00:43:38,040 said no we're gonna have to get in there 846 00:43:41,450 --> 00:43:39,540 with some equipment you know come back 847 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:41,460 with funding and do this right we don't 848 00:43:47,570 --> 00:43:45,300 want anybody hurt so that basically is 849 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:47,580 where we stand with Muench after this 850 00:43:57,970 --> 00:43:54,480 day but the the location is is known so 851 00:44:01,160 --> 00:43:57,980 if later you know somebody else with 852 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:01,170 some back end can actually go there well 853 00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:03,810 you know I'm thinking I'm thinking of 854 00:44:14,570 --> 00:44:10,230 the fellow from the TV series Josh who 855 00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:14,580 knows well yeah yeah and they have they 856 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:16,440 have you know they obviously have some 857 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:20,250 funding he's all over the place yeah and 858 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:22,650 you know if he would be prepared I I 859 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:25,410 think this would be a much longer and 860 00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:30,570 costly endeavor than what I think he's 861 00:44:35,780 --> 00:44:33,390 prepared to do but you know who knows 862 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:35,790 you know uh but I will tell you this 863 00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,250 it's in the Tatra mountains and we do 864 00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:40,800 have a map the rough location but as Ted 865 00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:41,520 told me 866 00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:44,880 Ted was standing three foot from the 867 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:47,070 opening and what it is there's a piece 868 00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:52,050 of swag rock that the sheep herder slid 869 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,300 down over this opening and Ted was 870 00:44:59,570 --> 00:44:56,400 standing three feet from this he said 871 00:45:01,310 --> 00:44:59,580 and he said you know Tommy said if if I 872 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:01,320 wouldn't have been there and seeing how 873 00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:03,690 he took this rock out and where he took 874 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:06,510 it from I would never and Ted was a spit 875 00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:08,730 lunker he was explored caves all the 876 00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:11,790 time in Missouri and he knew caves well 877 00:45:17,570 --> 00:45:15,540 believe me and but Ted said if I had not 878 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:17,580 been there and seen him do that I don't 879 00:45:22,460 --> 00:45:21,690 think I'd have found it so will it ever 880 00:45:26,420 --> 00:45:22,470 be found 881 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:28,849 all right well Tim and Thomas 882 00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:30,450 unfortunately we only have about three 883 00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:34,140 minutes left in the program so Thomas is 884 00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:36,270 there anything that you would like to 885 00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:38,990 let our audience know I mean you have a 886 00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,049 Facebook page you want to direct people 887 00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:46,319 to that yeah we're building we're 888 00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:48,990 actually as I speak we're going on 889 00:45:54,740 --> 00:45:52,200 another our UFO physical webpage we had 890 00:45:56,779 --> 00:45:54,750 we had to take down we had prior 891 00:45:59,029 --> 00:45:56,789 commitments let's just say from people 892 00:46:00,740 --> 00:45:59,039 that I know you'd know and we took it 893 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:00,750 down and that was the worst thing we 894 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:02,730 could have ever done we are in the 895 00:46:07,099 --> 00:46:05,250 process of getting a new one up anybody 896 00:46:11,230 --> 00:46:07,109 interested can go to my facebook page 897 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,240 which I know you have a link there and I 898 00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:13,680 post what I can there from Taemin and 899 00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:16,680 I'm always open for questions and you 900 00:46:23,769 --> 00:46:20,700 know I might add that Adam Johnson you 901 00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:23,779 were as soon as this damn virus breaks 902 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:26,670 we're gonna be back out there and we've 903 00:46:31,279 --> 00:46:29,010 got plans we're gonna get this thing 904 00:46:34,849 --> 00:46:31,289 going because adam has the state of the 905 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:34,859 art video equipment and we have some 906 00:46:39,019 --> 00:46:37,650 backing this for electronics new stuff 907 00:46:42,289 --> 00:46:39,029 and you know when we were doing this 908 00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:42,299 before I don't have to tell you Tim the 909 00:46:50,299 --> 00:46:48,240 capabilities of our smartphones with 910 00:46:52,460 --> 00:46:50,309 greatly aided us and what we were trying 911 00:46:57,019 --> 00:46:52,470 to accomplish with you know such 912 00:46:58,370 --> 00:46:57,029 rudimentary equipment out there but but 913 00:47:01,960 --> 00:46:58,380 we're gonna get it up we're gonna get 914 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:01,970 this done and all I can tell you is that 915 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:05,250 Adams a producer and and we're looking 916 00:47:09,049 --> 00:47:07,170 at doing something in that line we've 917 00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:09,059 had several offers all right Thomas I'm 918 00:47:12,579 --> 00:47:10,260 gonna have to interrupt you here because 919 00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:12,589 we have less than 30 seconds to go Tim 920 00:47:18,049 --> 00:47:15,720 well you know it has been it has been a 921 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:18,059 great pleasure to have you on the Tom 922 00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:20,250 and we want to continue this at some 923 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:23,089 future date and great success for your 924 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:27,710 future researcher on the subject and 925 00:47:34,789 --> 00:47:30,170 psyched out for Ted he did a wonderful 926 00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:34,799 job and our felt towards well thank you 927 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,990 much 928 00:47:41,470 --> 00:47:37,520 look forward to talking to you again 929 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:41,480 sometime it will inform you better Thank 930 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:44,770 You Thomas great heaven your honor 931 00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:47,690 you've been listening to explore in the 932 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:48,560 bazaars 933 00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:52,450 with hosts Timothy Beckley and T Swartz 934 00:47:58,210 --> 00:47:55,310 they're taking back the night by jetting 935 00:48:00,310 --> 00:47:58,220 non-stop across the cosmos in search of 936 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:00,320 the truly bizarre and totally 937 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,130 unexplained with you as their come 938 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:06,640 Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific 939 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:11,090 10:00 p.m. EST on the K cor digital 940 00:48:17,410 --> 00:48:13,970 reunion for more information on 941 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:17,420 exploring the bazaars and hosts Timothy 942 00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:19,730 Beckley and Tim Swartz check out their 943 00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:23,390 kco our digital radio network follow 944 00:48:43,289 --> 00:48:28,750 their YouTube channel at mr UFO 1100 945 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:46,630 lasting from lasting isn't that the 946 00:48:50,350 --> 00:48:48,770 entertainment capital has there 947 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:50,360 oh yeah a little place colors.they 948 00:48:58,570 --> 00:48:53,110 nights for 7:00 p.m. 949 00:49:01,360 --> 00:48:58,580 mr. on the K cor digital radio for more 950 00:49:04,180 --> 00:49:01,370 information on exploring the bazaars and 951 00:49:06,910 --> 00:49:04,190 hosts Timothy Beckley and Tim Schwarz 952 00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:06,920 check out there k cor digital radio 953 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:10,910 network follow their YouTube channel @m 954 00:49:26,240 --> 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